Tuesday, July 2, 2013

What to choose - Distance MBA, Executive full time MBA or web based / Satellite based Executive management programme

Hi friends,
I had been thinking about to write about it for quite long time. Today, suddenly I glanced through an article title- Crore-plus salaries make their debut at IIM Bangalore's executive MBA programme.
I always advise people to go through an executive programme through a good management school. In India, education has become business. Fake institutes offers fake MBA in 6 months which has no value and it does not add any skills. Still many working in the industry feels that if they show "MBA" then will get better position and salary which never happens. There are private and deemed universities violating norms and selling degrees just to make money. Recent expose of corruption in DEC, UGC and legal action against CMJ, EIILM, MGU Shilliong, PTU, Sikkim Manipal made us to force what happens to lakh of people who get easy degree from these institutes? The truth is people getting or buying degrees from these institutes never grow in their career on the based of these degrees. Few of them grow on the basis of their own performance.
Surprisingly, few top institutes also encashing the milking cow of distance education. NMIMS, SCDL, ICFAI, ITM, IMT to name few. I have exposed them with evidence in various blog post.
Even to freshers who want to pursue MBA, I have been advising to pursue MBA only from selected B schools else avoid. You may find the list and reason from following blog post
You are advising us to pursue full time executive MBA but how is that possible? I have a good job, I have loan and EMI, I have family.
All accepted, but it is only if you are aiming big, dreaming high. For example, you are working as a manager and has total 8 years experience, your current ctc is 8 lakhs per annum, in next 1 year even if you change job, in an exceptional case it will not go beyond 15 lakhs. Now, if you spend 15 lakhs for 1 year executive PGPM of IIM Bangalore or similar institute, you may loose 8 lakhs to 12 lakhs as earning and 15 lakhs investment for PG program but after a year you will surely get package of 26 lakhs. Your all expenses are covered and from 3rd year onwards, you get a super earning. Can you reach to that level even after sticking to the same job for 10 years with average increment of 15% per year?
It's not about only money, its about position, its about brand and company you are getting.
Recently I had chat with one of my friend to whom I hired in one of my previous organisation and later we became friend. He is pursuing satellite based IIM Kolkata 1 year executive program. I asked him why did not he opt for 1 year full time executive programme. He informed that he did not want to leave the job and cost was high. I strongly recommend to avoid such satellite based programme offered through NIIT imperia, Hughes and other mode.It never has value and just money making tactics of these b schools and company like NIIT IMPERIA. Such program does not come with campus placement and it is not treated that you have done something from institutes like IIM.
below is the article fro today's economic times which tells importance of full time executive pg management from institutes like IIMs, XLRI, MDI, SP JAIN ETC. Enjoy the reading.
All questions and comments are welcome.

In my next post, I will cover executive full time MBA from all reputed B schools.

Crore-plus salaries make their debut at IIM Bangalore's executive MBA programme

By Anumeha Chaturvedi, Rica Bhattacharyya & Devina Sengupta, ET Bureau | 2 Jul, 2013, 06.26AM IST

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI/BANGALORE: American multinational e-commerce company Amazon and at least one other company have just offered compensation packages in excess of Rs 1 crore for the first time to two students from IIM Bangalore's full-time Executive Post-Graduate Programme(EPGP), a sign that recruiters are not totally averse to hiring bright talent even in this bleak environment.
One student has been placed in India, and the other in the US. Amazon declined to comment on an ET query.

The average salary at IIM-B also went up to Rs 26 lakh this year, from Rs 23 lakh last year. About 55 companies came to recruit for the programme for a batch of 74 students, and about 50% were repeat recruiters. This is the best placement season in IIM Bangalore's EPGP's four-year history.

"The one-year programme, with its four-term model and an international immersion programme, is comparable to global business schools," says professorSankarshan Basu, chairperson, career development services at the institute.

For institutes that offer full-time, one-year programmes, the trend is a refreshing change. In the past, the programmes have been in the sidelines for their lack of summer internship options - a prerequisite for job offers - and the absence of a 'holistic' two-year perspective. This year, though, they seem to be finding favour with recruiters at campuses like IIM Bangalore, IIM Lucknow, MDI Gurgaon and SP Jain in Mumbai.
Crore-plus salaries make their debut at IIM Bangalore's executive MBA programme
Corporates are warming up to the content of these programmes, encouraged in part by success stories. For instance, NC Bopanna, COO of manufacturing firm KeldEllentoft andPiyushDeogirikar, COO of Mother Earth Retail have graduated from IIM-B'sprogramme.
Recruiters queue up

Consulting firm KPMG would earlier hestitate to recruit from one-year MBA programmes. Now, however, it is seeing value in the course. "Some of these programmes have successfully distilled what was taught in two years at these institutes with their modules, faculty and course content," says Narayanan Ramaswamy, partner - management consulting & national industry head for education, KPMG.

Best placement in programme's history as average salary too goes up; institutes tweak courses in line with global standards.

At other institutes offering the programme, it's the same encouraging story. The highest salary for the one-year MBA programme at SP Jain Institute of Management & Research this year has gone up to Rs 40.5 lakh for India compared with Rs 28.5 lakh last year. The average salary has gone up to Rs 16.71 lakh from Rs 15.63 lakh last year. Top recruiters included AmazonKPMGICICI Bank, Infosys and McKinsey.

MDI Gurgaon, one of the first in the country to start a one-year, full-time, post-graduate programme for executives in 1988, has also reported better salaries. The highest compensation this year was at Rs 18.2 lakh compared with Rs 16.8 lakh last year.

The average salary this year is at Rs 13.2 lakh compared with Rs 10.2 lakh last year. "Surprisingly, the salary package increased this year in spite of the economy not being in good shape," says Kanwal Kapil, associate professor and chairperson, placements at the institute.

IIM Lucknow declined to share information on salaries citing confidentiality clauses, but claimed to have had the best placements among the IIMs this year for its International Programme in Management for Executives (IPMX). Rolling placements for the batch of 2012-2013 commenced in November at the institute's Noida campus. DeloitteIBM, EXL Services and TCS were among top recruiters.

Rahul Joshi, enrolled for IPMX this year after over a decade's service in the telecom sector - his last job was with Ericsson Global as lead solution architect. "Having worked in telecom throughout, my knowledge and ideas about business were fairly restricted," he says.

More rigour

On their part, the institutes have attempted to strengthen the credibility of the one-year programmes by making them more rigorous through changes in course content and modules on international immersion, a format followed by global business schools. "We are making the programme much more action-oriented so that every student will have multiple opportunities to get involved with organisations and the senior management," says professor G Shainesh, chairperson of the EPGP programme at IIM Bangalore. Emerging Economies and Entrepreneurial Management are now offered as core courses in the programme, he says.

IIM-B has also included a business project component in its international immersion programme. Student groups will work on projects sponsored by organisations in Singapore this year in a consulting mode.

A typical project will be spread over six to eight weeks, starting with a brief given by the sponsor.

It will involve a focused problem or opportunity analysis, data collection and multiple interactions with project sponsors. During the two weeks of international immersion, being hosted at the National University of Singapore, students will present their recommendations to the sponsoring organisation.

IIM-B has also reduced the work experience criterion for executives to 5-15 years for next year from 7-15 years, so as to attract a wider set of executives.

"One of the significant changes over the past two years at SP Jain has been the focus on the international immersion programme," adds Indu Niranjan, a professor of finance and deputy director of the PGPM programme at the institute. SP Jain has tied up with highly-ranked schools in the US, and the participants will be going there for three weeks' advanced courses in the area of specialisation, she says.

The schools for this year are NYU Stern for finance, Michigan State University for business analytics and operations and USC Marshall Business School for marketing. "We are looking at creating concentrations within the specialisation to increase the employability of the participants and enable them to be more focused in the domain and function," says Niranjan.

At IIM Lucknow, the international business module will be held at ESCP Europe, Berlin and Paris in September. The focus will be on managing complexities and prospects in the European business environment. Indian business schools compete seriously with other global business schools, says William Litwack, a consultant for IIM Bangalore's EPGP who has worked on projects for Instead.

"In terms of average GMAT scores, project work and the international immersion component, some of these schools are at the same level as global B-schools offering a one-year MBA," he says. The number of class hours are almost the same as a two-year MBA, and these professionals have to work harder, he adds.
But KPMG's Ramswamy feels there is still a long way to go. "Indian business schools need to be much more agile and flexible according to the changing needs of industry, like global business schools," he says. If institutes focus on non-traditional modes of course content and faculty, the one-year MBA can reach greater heights, he says.

Source: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/jobs/crore-plus-salaries-make-their-debut-at-iim-bangalores-executive-mba-programme/articleshow/20867993.cms?curpg=2


  1. If someone goes to reputed business school with mind of investing money now and reaping it later. He may fail to convince self after the course. Media shows Top line candidates alone. Aftermath story is always missed

    Candidates who did an executive program from IIM couldn't able to settle themselves in an organization because they are busy in multiplying the salary. After few years they become in-affordable by organization and forced to work on own.

    Quality of Engineering and Medicine outcome is diluted in same way. I think now we are doing the same for management graduates by making them to chase the numbers.

    1. Fully agree to you Karthy/ Karthik,

      Here, the data is based on average salary. I am never a believer that only MBA makes you a great leader or such other professional qualification. Personal trait is must.
      Here, I have given options between distance MBA from any institute V/s Satellite based 1 year Pg Programme of 3-4 lakhs from IIMs V/s 1 year full time executive MBA and still, for career growth I strongly recommends for 1 year full time executive PGPM from IIMs, ISB, XLRI.

      The management education concept in India is itself wrong. When you see Singapore, Australia, UK, USA and Canada, it is open for people with work experience only and the duration reduced to 12-15 months. It makes absolute sense.
      For a fresher I have always advised to opt from top institutes only. You may refer following link.

      Above mentioned article from ET has 2 data- average salary and highest salary. In my post I have not talked about highest salary (as hardly 1-2 get that much salary). Further, I have seen few companies advertising only full time management graduates with X years of experience from tier 1 B school only, so in that case, those people having calibre but do not have the tag can really get benefit from executive Management (full time) programme from such B schools.

      Also agreeing to your points, such professional should not focus on just multiplying money. Every need has to an end. They should more focus on their professional achievement rather than just money. Being an employee is very easy but leaving that comfort zone and starting as an entrepreneur is not that much easy, it comes with a cost and many may fail also.


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